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		<title>By: Luis Escobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My argument as to why mainstream comics are easier to get into than ever, is up on my blog: http://www.luisescobarblog.com/?p=584</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My argument as to why mainstream comics are easier to get into than ever, is up on my blog: <a href="http://www.luisescobarblog.com/?p=584" rel="nofollow">http://www.luisescobarblog.com/?p=584</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luis Escobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,
Dude, I LOVE you&#039;re book. Great fun comic.
I told Krishna already but I&#039;m planning to write on the opposite view point  on my blog next Thursday. Why is easier than ever to get into mainstream comics, so stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,<br />
Dude, I LOVE you&#8217;re book. Great fun comic.<br />
I told Krishna already but I&#8217;m planning to write on the opposite view point  on my blog next Thursday. Why is easier than ever to get into mainstream comics, so stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it involved a talking dinosaur chewing on a stout robot then yeah, you got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it involved a talking dinosaur chewing on a stout robot then yeah, you got it.</p>
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		<title>By: krishna</title>
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		<dc:creator>krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, Scott! Thanks for the added perspective. I&#039;ll definitely be checking out Atomic Robo. I believe I picked up an issue on Free Comic Book Day last year (but my memory is hazy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, Scott! Thanks for the added perspective. I&#8217;ll definitely be checking out Atomic Robo. I believe I picked up an issue on Free Comic Book Day last year (but my memory is hazy).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should try Atomic Robo. But I&#039;m only saying that because I co-created the book. Haha!

The issues that you speak to here are ones that frustrate my creative partner and me to no end. There is a core audience for mainstream comics, such a Luis here, (Hello Louis), but for new people looking to get into the hobby it&#039;s one barrier after another. It&#039;s something we try to address with our own book, though I will say right up front I&#039;d be happier ditching the floppies and going straight to TPB where you have enough pages to tell a self-contained story with a beginning, middle, and end.

Marvel does try to get new readership via it&#039;s Adventure and Ultimate imprints. I think that in the main they are making a good effort in those areas. It&#039;s enver their &quot;A-List&quot; writers, but since the stories aren&#039;t tied to the continuity or the current &quot;Event&quot;, they tend to be much better books IMO.

If you&#039;ve got an iPhone, iPad, PsP, or Droid-type devise you can check out a lot of these books for free. Like Atomic Robo! (and some Marvel stuff also . . .I guess.)

;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should try Atomic Robo. But I&#8217;m only saying that because I co-created the book. Haha!</p>
<p>The issues that you speak to here are ones that frustrate my creative partner and me to no end. There is a core audience for mainstream comics, such a Luis here, (Hello Louis), but for new people looking to get into the hobby it&#8217;s one barrier after another. It&#8217;s something we try to address with our own book, though I will say right up front I&#8217;d be happier ditching the floppies and going straight to TPB where you have enough pages to tell a self-contained story with a beginning, middle, and end.</p>
<p>Marvel does try to get new readership via it&#8217;s Adventure and Ultimate imprints. I think that in the main they are making a good effort in those areas. It&#8217;s enver their &#8220;A-List&#8221; writers, but since the stories aren&#8217;t tied to the continuity or the current &#8220;Event&#8221;, they tend to be much better books IMO.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got an iPhone, iPad, PsP, or Droid-type devise you can check out a lot of these books for free. Like Atomic Robo! (and some Marvel stuff also . . .I guess.)</p>
<p>;D</p>
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		<title>By: Angelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of New Avengers and X-Factor, they&#039;re both in the middle of an event crossovers right now. To set up a new status quo to make the book more accessible in the coming months, post-events.

New Avengers  is (currently) actually a complimentary book to what&#039;s happening in the Marvel series &quot;Siege&quot;. So it&#039;s a small side story in the midst of a chaotic larger story. So I agree it&#039;s not new reader accessible, but that&#039;s because if it were, the story wouldn&#039;t progress due to the continual retreading over points that have already been established.

If you really want a real jumping off point, you should look at Marvel&#039;s &quot;World Greatest Comics&quot;. These are reprints of perfect jumping on points for new readers and are sold for only $1.  Also, I think they&#039;re giving away free digital copies of these comics as well in the Ipad app. So it&#039;s all about knowing where to start, which the shop owners, if they&#039;re good, should be able to point you in the right direction.

Don&#039;t pick up random &quot;New Avengers #107 Siege Tie-In&quot; and expect everything to make sense.
It&#039;s like you jumped into the show Lost, half way through season 6, watched one episode, then got upset because you didn&#039;t get what was happening.

Marvel has checklists, of which books to read on the back page for their crossovers, they released a Free Marvel Chronology book to guide readers, new and old alike, through each of their major properties, they have the &quot;Worlds Greatest Comics&quot; which are jumping on points, and recap pages in front of almost every book. I honestly don&#039;t know that else they can do to make it more accessible without alienating the hardcore target market. There has to be a balance.

Come back in about a month or so, where Marvel&#039;s &quot;Heroic Age&quot; begins. Marvel is going to be renumbering a huge number of books, and they should all be new reader accessible, and the stories will be self-contained within their respective books. No more crossovers, (Thank God).

As far as DC goes... I can&#039;t help ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of New Avengers and X-Factor, they&#8217;re both in the middle of an event crossovers right now. To set up a new status quo to make the book more accessible in the coming months, post-events.</p>
<p>New Avengers  is (currently) actually a complimentary book to what&#8217;s happening in the Marvel series &#8220;Siege&#8221;. So it&#8217;s a small side story in the midst of a chaotic larger story. So I agree it&#8217;s not new reader accessible, but that&#8217;s because if it were, the story wouldn&#8217;t progress due to the continual retreading over points that have already been established.</p>
<p>If you really want a real jumping off point, you should look at Marvel&#8217;s &#8220;World Greatest Comics&#8221;. These are reprints of perfect jumping on points for new readers and are sold for only $1.  Also, I think they&#8217;re giving away free digital copies of these comics as well in the Ipad app. So it&#8217;s all about knowing where to start, which the shop owners, if they&#8217;re good, should be able to point you in the right direction.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pick up random &#8220;New Avengers #107 Siege Tie-In&#8221; and expect everything to make sense.<br />
It&#8217;s like you jumped into the show Lost, half way through season 6, watched one episode, then got upset because you didn&#8217;t get what was happening.</p>
<p>Marvel has checklists, of which books to read on the back page for their crossovers, they released a Free Marvel Chronology book to guide readers, new and old alike, through each of their major properties, they have the &#8220;Worlds Greatest Comics&#8221; which are jumping on points, and recap pages in front of almost every book. I honestly don&#8217;t know that else they can do to make it more accessible without alienating the hardcore target market. There has to be a balance.</p>
<p>Come back in about a month or so, where Marvel&#8217;s &#8220;Heroic Age&#8221; begins. Marvel is going to be renumbering a huge number of books, and they should all be new reader accessible, and the stories will be self-contained within their respective books. No more crossovers, (Thank God).</p>
<p>As far as DC goes&#8230; I can&#8217;t help ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Escobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother got my sister-in-law into reading comics through reading trades and watching comic book cartoons and movies. She loves them now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother got my sister-in-law into reading comics through reading trades and watching comic book cartoons and movies. She loves them now.</p>
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		<title>By: krishna</title>
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		<dc:creator>krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to Luis&#039;s comment, I think the artwork on most Marvel books has actually improved. I also agree that there is a lot of variety (not just super-hero comics) on the market now. Those are both GOOD things about modern comics. And I hope they continue...

I occasionally read trade paperbacks because our public library has a good stock of them. I found Captain America to be particularly entertaining as a trade paperback. I also enjoyed the new Iron Fist series that came out a few years ago.

I still stand by my thesis, though - comics are not particularly accessible to new readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to Luis&#8217;s comment, I think the artwork on most Marvel books has actually improved. I also agree that there is a lot of variety (not just super-hero comics) on the market now. Those are both GOOD things about modern comics. And I hope they continue&#8230;</p>
<p>I occasionally read trade paperbacks because our public library has a good stock of them. I found Captain America to be particularly entertaining as a trade paperback. I also enjoyed the new Iron Fist series that came out a few years ago.</p>
<p>I still stand by my thesis, though &#8211; comics are not particularly accessible to new readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Escobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE modern mainstream comics and I&#039;m hooked on A LOT of the stories I&#039;ve read.  I only buy trades and the floppies I read are ones I get at work for free from a DC artist I know. (I agree, floppies are too expensive).

I love the artwork. Realistic, cartoony, is irrelevant. Drawing well and  consistent is hard.  Why all the whining?  If a guy draws realistic, admire it. The hero still looks cool.  I&#039;m one of does people that didn&#039;t stop reading comics ever.  I didn&#039;t get out of it.  I found something to read even in the 90s.

Next time you go to the comic shop, do yourself a favor and pick up a trade.  You get a full story and you get what you pay for.  You also get caught up with what&#039;s going on, to some extent. Comics are fun reads.  I love comics.  They&#039;ve evolved and changed and everyone want them NOT too. WHY? Every other type of art form changes too. Look at music for one example.

If you don&#039;t like one storyline in one comic that doesn&#039;t mean that every story line in every comic sucks. It means that one story didn&#039;t grab you. That one writer isn&#039;t very good or maybe he just had a bad arch.  Go to the library and read as many trades as you can, find the one that speaks to you and collect those. Thinking your going to love a book by coming into it in the middle, isn&#039;t going to help.

Comics have changed. So has media. Catch up on the comics you want to read by going to the hundreds of sites that give you synopsis of the hundreds of issues that you&#039;ve missed and then continue from there.  Where not living int he 80s anymore.

Comics now are better reads than they were when I was growing up.
Not only that but there is almost something for everyone.  Kids, adult, women, men, boys, girls.  Even in the mainstream comics.  Stop hating because you&#039;re truly missing out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE modern mainstream comics and I&#8217;m hooked on A LOT of the stories I&#8217;ve read.  I only buy trades and the floppies I read are ones I get at work for free from a DC artist I know. (I agree, floppies are too expensive).</p>
<p>I love the artwork. Realistic, cartoony, is irrelevant. Drawing well and  consistent is hard.  Why all the whining?  If a guy draws realistic, admire it. The hero still looks cool.  I&#8217;m one of does people that didn&#8217;t stop reading comics ever.  I didn&#8217;t get out of it.  I found something to read even in the 90s.</p>
<p>Next time you go to the comic shop, do yourself a favor and pick up a trade.  You get a full story and you get what you pay for.  You also get caught up with what&#8217;s going on, to some extent. Comics are fun reads.  I love comics.  They&#8217;ve evolved and changed and everyone want them NOT too. WHY? Every other type of art form changes too. Look at music for one example.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like one storyline in one comic that doesn&#8217;t mean that every story line in every comic sucks. It means that one story didn&#8217;t grab you. That one writer isn&#8217;t very good or maybe he just had a bad arch.  Go to the library and read as many trades as you can, find the one that speaks to you and collect those. Thinking your going to love a book by coming into it in the middle, isn&#8217;t going to help.</p>
<p>Comics have changed. So has media. Catch up on the comics you want to read by going to the hundreds of sites that give you synopsis of the hundreds of issues that you&#8217;ve missed and then continue from there.  Where not living int he 80s anymore.</p>
<p>Comics now are better reads than they were when I was growing up.<br />
Not only that but there is almost something for everyone.  Kids, adult, women, men, boys, girls.  Even in the mainstream comics.  Stop hating because you&#8217;re truly missing out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I was just thinking how cool the latest DEATHLOK comic was.  It&#039;s a reimagined version of the original Buckler Deathlok, Great take on the character and the art is good and the lame modern colors work for the desolate cold atmosphere of the miniseries.  It works for me too because this story is out of Marvel contunity and the original Deathlok was out of the Marvel continuity to begin with too.

Yeah, floppies are super expensive and way too fancy.  I never liked the shift from cheap newsprint to premium stuff even back in the 80s

The pacing for the most part IS way too slow, writing for graphic novels they tend to pad the stories with &quot;empty carbs&quot; so to speak.

Style wise...  there are super realistic stuff, (reminicent of Neal Adams) but there&#039;s lots of other indie stuff too.

Coloring does suck in general tho...

I find myself being very passionate about comics, and grateful that I can make stuff that I like, MY way.  I also try to remember that my tastes are mine alone, and no one is obligated to share those tastes.  That&#039;s why I can get a GREAT issue of Capt America drawn by Trimpe and inked by Abel for 99c !  Who cares what the big guns are making, we&#039;ve got our own game and it&#039;s a Winner!(not money wise, but you can&#039;t have everything!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I was just thinking how cool the latest DEATHLOK comic was.  It&#8217;s a reimagined version of the original Buckler Deathlok, Great take on the character and the art is good and the lame modern colors work for the desolate cold atmosphere of the miniseries.  It works for me too because this story is out of Marvel contunity and the original Deathlok was out of the Marvel continuity to begin with too.</p>
<p>Yeah, floppies are super expensive and way too fancy.  I never liked the shift from cheap newsprint to premium stuff even back in the 80s</p>
<p>The pacing for the most part IS way too slow, writing for graphic novels they tend to pad the stories with &#8220;empty carbs&#8221; so to speak.</p>
<p>Style wise&#8230;  there are super realistic stuff, (reminicent of Neal Adams) but there&#8217;s lots of other indie stuff too.</p>
<p>Coloring does suck in general tho&#8230;</p>
<p>I find myself being very passionate about comics, and grateful that I can make stuff that I like, MY way.  I also try to remember that my tastes are mine alone, and no one is obligated to share those tastes.  That&#8217;s why I can get a GREAT issue of Capt America drawn by Trimpe and inked by Abel for 99c !  Who cares what the big guns are making, we&#8217;ve got our own game and it&#8217;s a Winner!(not money wise, but you can&#8217;t have everything!)</p>
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